AARO records on attempts to engage with Grusch (FOIA 24-F-0266)

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Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:24:52 PM
To: "Kirkpatrick, Sean M HQE OSD OUSD INTEL & SEC (USA)"
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(b)(6) 'Kozik, David A SES
Subject: Dave Grusch
Sean: Grusch confirmed to me that he does not intend to avail himself of the AARO "Safe harbor" process to tell you
what he spent many hours telling the DoD IG, the IC IG, and the two intelligence committees about UAP. He has
reported through the media in recent days that he was not able to share some of the information he has with the two
intelligence committees because they lacked the program accesses. Assuming accurate media reporting, that means
that he has told either/both DoD/IC IGs about one or more SAPs that the Intel Committees are not accessed to. The
Armed Services Committees are not allowed by process rules to interview Grusch about any of this because the IC
whistleblower process is tightly controlled by the Intel Committees.
What this means is that the DoD/IC IGs know something from Grusch that Congress as a whole is not aware of. That is a
reason for you to go to the IGs and ask for access, as they deem appropriate, for you to what Grusch is reporting. If
waived programs are involved, there would need to be a way for you to convey this to our staff directors. But there is
also just a basic reason for you to try to get all the information that Grusch has provided to the IGs.
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