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This AARO FOIA release (case 330UAP000032) is a memorandum for record dated January 8, 2024. It sets out AARO's repeated attempts from June 2023 to January 2024 to interview David Grusch for its Historical Record Report. The release also includes text messages with Chris Mellon, email threads with Grusch and congressional staff, and DoD and ODNI memos stating that AARO may receive classified information. It concludes that Grusch had no intention of giving AARO information on his claims.
On Tue. Nov 14. 2023. 5:37 Ad (b)(6) (b)(6) wrote: Mr. Grusch, The law is clear in that we can receive information at all classification levels. We can discuss when you come in. - From: David Grusch1Tb)(6) ST: Monday. November 13. 2023 12:24:06 PM (b)(6) (b)(6) Subject: Re: Contact Request Good Morning (b)(6) Thank you for sending these items. As a former agency-level SAPMO and CAPCO I take security policies very seriously. In the DoD SAPCO memo, the term "UAP-related" is not defined. FY23 NDAA Sec. 1673 Subsection B defines it as the following: "any activity or program by a department or agency of the Federal Government or a contractor of such a department or agency relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena, including with respect to material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research and development, detection and tracking, developmental or operational testing, and security protections and enforcement." The key issue here is that many of these activities have conventional classified and compartmented Security Classification Guides that also cover non-UAP activities as well. To discuss the UAP-related activities would also expose these conventional SAP mission areas. An oral history interview subject must also be absolved of this obligation to protect this information as well, some of it may be bigoted or WAIVED (lAW DODI 5205.11 and 10 USC Sec 119). Furthermore, as discussed Friday, I am seeking a ODNI CAPCO determination to absolve an oral history interview subject of any NDA's relating to UAP-related and adjacent (as stated above) IC CAP information. Additionally, in my particular case, in order to horizontally protect a portion of my oral history testimony previously provided to ICIG and the intelligence committees, we would need to conduct the interview at the HCS-Operations (0) Restricted 4 AARO FY2024 NDAA 44 U.S.C. 2107 §1843(a)(3) Page determined to be Unclassified Reviewed by Chief of Staff, AARO IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C) Date: 03/27/2025 032
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FOIA release, from the aaro collection. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is above. 26 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.